Like usually every minute I’d quickly look around to make sure there aren’t weirdos following me.

For context: I’m a young-adult male, but I don’t exactly have training in martial arts or anything, so I’m every time I see anyone that looks “tough” I don’t feel safe.

When I was a kid, my parents told me the usual “stranger danger” talk. Also in movies and tv, there are usualy a lot of plot involving peoppe getting followed, and the victim never looks back. In crime stories, and in the news, people usually become a victim if a bad person follows them home.

So when I went to school as a kid/teen, I’d always be scanning my surroundings like very often, especially when nearing home, I’d be like looking around every 20 seconds to see if there’s weirdos following.

Even as a young adult, I kinda still have this instinct. I mean, we hear about crime everywhere. I don’t exactly live in a “slum”, but I live in a big city, and more people generally means more crime, and statistically, crime is sort of an issue where I live, I mean, it’a a city, you know how it is. This is in the US btw.

I don’t carry a gun, don’t wanna have intrusive thoughts about killing myself so I don’t want that, so I carry pepper spray just in case.

I mean, I’m probably not gonna change my behavior, I think its good to be cautious, this question is just me trying to see if there’s anyone else out there think thinks like me.

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    6’2 white man and I often walk with a dog, so no, people do not fuck with me.

    If I were a woman tho I’d be carrying a weapon, but not paranoid about it.

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    I don’t necessarily look around like I’m being followed. But it took me a very long time to be comfortable listening to music or having headphones on while walking, or in public at all.

    The idea of not being able to hear my surroundings and be ready to react to something is still really weird to me. It takes all of my mental effort to put it to the back of my brain while walking my dog.

    It’s not even necessarily worrying about someone with malicious intent. It could be not being able to sense another walker coming up behind me. Or two kids playing catch and a ball going astray towards my face. Just the idea of not having situational awareness at all times freaks me out.

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    I don’t. I do make sure I’m not in a way of anyone. And I walk on purpose. I do check before opening/getting in the car.

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    Depends on the circumstances. If I’m walking on a street or neighborhood someone told me they got mugged on I’ll be way more aware and observant than otherwise. Same if I’m walking in nature it’s good to look behind regularly to be familiar with how the trail looks both ways so you don’t get turned around on the way back or if there are large predators in the area. If I’m walking around my neighborhood I’ll be much more selective about when I’m more observant because I know where the poorly lit areas and blind corners are, and more so at 2am than 2pm.

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      Speaking of mugging, someone snatched a few hundred dollars from my mom when she was about to deposit it in the bank. Happened just a few blocks from my house. Perhaps that was subconciously in the back of my mind.

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    Look at it like driving - you should be looking as far down the road as you can for “threats”, and maintaining awareness of other cars and their behaviour all around you, and behind you, so you can predict what they’re going to do.

    We teach “Defensive Driving”, which includes avoiding risky situations - don’t let yourself get boxed in, watch for that car driving… assertively, and create a space for them to go so they don’t cause problems for the rest of them, etc.

    Rest of life is not really different - situational awareness is the primary tool for our safety. Don’t step into the street without looking, don’t walk under that ladder or scaffolding (things fall from work sites all the time), walk through the yard with the barking dog, etc.

    Threats from people just become part of your overall situational awareness.

    I recommend the book “The Gift of Fear” By Gavin deBecker. He essentially espouses the usefulness of fear and situational awareness.

    Maybe this will help you reframe what seems paranoid fear into something more reasonable and useful.

    Edit: The big thing is to engage in the society around you. If you’re engaged, you’re part of it all, people are aware of you. We actually get the word “idiot” from the Greeks - it was the term they used to describe people who didn’t engage in the “polis” (society) - it meant someone not involved, not skilled at this (or other skills). So don’t be an idiōtēs, engage with people!

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    I’ve been punched in the face by passers-by without any provocation in my life before, which has led to me constantly being vigilant.

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    You’re not cautious, you’re paranoid and fearful to the point it’s a bit concerning for your mental health (although the suicidal ideation tells me the whole situation is more than just a bit concerning). You know this ain’t normal, you know that’s not how people are meant to live their lives, you know this cannot continue for long before you either snap at/hurt someone who didn’t mean any harm or your mind breaks.

    I know living in the USA cannot help your mental stability but it’s not a favela, it really ain’t that dangerous. Maybe moving to a smaller city or a town would work? Sometimes it’s easier to change our circumstances than to change ourselves, and sometimes the former allows the letter as well.

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      He isn’t paranoid and fearful. He just accidently created a benign habit.

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          Well, maybe for men who are strong, they would feel safe all the time. But I’m not exactly a muscular guy, I’m just average.

          Kinda in the same category as most women. Maybe statistically less likely to get SA’ed, but still, muggings, random assults, hate crimes?

          My mom got robbed for a few hundred dollars just a fee blocks from my house.

          Some kid was throw things at my grandma.

          There’ve been hate crimes against Asian Americans since 2020. It never really went away.

          Before 2020, it was “stranger danger” and as a kid, it was easy for adults to target you. But now? Its actual hate crimes.

          So like, as an Asian American, this is like you telling a Black person in the South to “stop being in constant fear”.

          Even in supposedly “liberal” cities, you got people in NYC being attacked. Even native americans got blamed for covid. Like native american can you imagine the insanity?

          I think your comment was probably made in good faith, but you’re lacking context for what the US is like. Perhaps your area is very safe, in that case, I’m glad you have that safety, but things are kinds chaotic here. I mean, most of the world, other than small close-knit communities, the world is chaotic.

          I remember people yelling racial slurs at me in school, and once even by kids younger than me.

          Being a man doesn’t make you safer, not unless you’re a very muscular-looking man (which I’m not).

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      Situational awareness is the best weapon anyone can have.

      Having a weapon but no situational awareness diminishes the usefulness of any weapon, significantly. While I carry a tool that could double as a weapon, I’d really, really, really, like to never have to use it in defense. I’d much rather maintain awareness and avoid potential conflicts.

      I’d rather identify a threat well in advance, and avoid it, then rely on defending myself with a weapon because I wasn’t paying attention.

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    Depends? Shady part of the city, late night, slightly drunk and alone? Absolutely. Going for lunch in a nic small town? Absolutely not. The street sign I run into would probably tell me it’s sorry.

    So, yeah, depends on the situation. I’ve had most negative interactions either in crowds or at places like train stations, so that is where I am most paranlid

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      train stations

      Oh yea that’s terrifying. I usually stand as far away from the edge as possible. In NYC, people would push you into an oncoming subway-train. Idk wtf is wrong with people.

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        Oh wow. I was referring to aggressive beggars or pickpockets. That seems like a whole different category of problems.

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    Being aware of your surroundings, regardless of a “safe” or “dangerous” place is just street smarts. However, you may not realize that looking around every minute makes you look scared and people who want to victimize you will catch on to that fear and target you. And other people, that are not trying to harm you, will think there is something wrong with you and avoid you as the “danger stranger”. I would suggest being more calm, use your ears as well as your eyes, and look a little less often. “Blend in” is the safe way to move through an area.

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      As a big, scary-looking dude, I hate going out in public because I know I freak solitary women out. I feel like I should wear a shirt that says “I apologize for being here,” or something. I’m sorry the world is this way. Y’all deserve peace and security.

      Is there anything people like me can do to assure those around us that we are not the ones to fear? Like, is there a tattoo I can get or a hat I can wear or something? I wish rapers and miscreants had a distinctive look that us regular folk could avoid.

      Of course, I currently look like Harry Henderson with a septum piercing, so I guess probably a shave could help, but I really like my beard. It’s my security blankie :-[

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        I think the big thing is engaging with people.

        I’m average size, but historically have RBF, so to counter it I try to engage with people.

        Eye contact is huge. We can tell you’re friendly from that alone (when it’s done in a friendly way, not the staring down kind, haha).

        I have a couple big friends, and it’s easy to tell which are friendly by how they carry themselves (they’re both friendly, one just comes across more friendly). It’s interesting to watch.

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          I typically make eye contact, do a little nod, and say “howdy” or “ay” in a sheepish manner.

          I try to project the image of “if you need anything, let me know.”

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        The “alt” style helps a lot, actually (ime). I trust metal head-looking dudes over frat boy-looking dudes 1000% but that’s anecdotal

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        Just ignore us. Consistent eye contact, staring, or obviously paying a lot of unwarranted attention to us is way more threatening than just being big or burly.

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          So you mean I have to act like a normal human being? Fuck. I’m too curious and autistic for that. Are you sure there’s not a hat I can wear?

          There’s a hat for the opposite of this. This isn’t fair.

          (Mostly joking)

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        I usually make a point to take off my hood if I have one on, and generally lift my head and maybe give them a nod/smile, or otherwise indicate that “I’ve seen you, and I’m letting you see my face clearly”. If we’re alone in a dark, empty place at night, I’ll also make a point to cross the street away from them.

        I’ve talked to some women about how they prefer men to act, and they generally said they think what I do is decent. Of course, that’s reliant on the whole “make eye-contact, nod, smile, and wave”-thing being done in a disarming and “I’m friendly and I see you, and I’m going to mind my own business”-way, and not a creepy way.